Update: Two Dead in Saturday Highway four Crash
An afternoon crash on Highway four and Marsh Creek Road in Discovery Bay resulted in two deaths.
The incident occurred at 1:35 pm after a tow truck and sedan collided in what is being described as a T-bone type collision where fire crews had to use hydraulic implements to extract the victims. The sedan was ruined. The passenger in that vehicle was pounced dead on scene while the drive was flown to John Muir Trauma Center in Walnut Creek where they later passed due to major injuries from the crash.
The tow truck driver and passenger were unharmed in the incident.
According to the incident report, the two truck driver advised the sedan turned in front of him as he was traveling approximately fifty mph resulting in a tow truck colliding with the sedan on its passenger side.
Theodore Machado, 44, of French Camp and his 16-year-old daughter, Kianna Machado, of Rio Vista, died following the crash.
We will be updating this story tomorrow morning.
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Is this the 2nd one at that intersection this week?
The victim with life menacing injuries has passed away. My family and I drove through the intersection well after the crash. Absolutely gruesome glance. It made my tummy turn to see yellow tarps. I can’t stop thinking about those poor people and their families. May they rest in peace.
May God bless these people and their friends and family. Unluckily I witnessed this just after it happened and got a picture of the wreck. The picture shows the car crumpled and I believe it was the passenger who was killed because after reading the comments I looked at my picture and realized the yellow tarp on the passenger seat was to cover up the person who passed away. The medevac helicopter landed in the field next to the accident and the firefighters were attempting to extract the person and get them on the helicopter. When I came by three hours later they were still cleaning up and investigating. Is there a way to submit my photo for the story?
Yes it was a father and his teenage daughter both from Rio Vista. We are mourning the loss in our little town.
Roxanne it was 17year old boy and a 19year old boy from alvarado Texas that passed away in this accident. I know the victims.
@Holly, the corners office confirmed it was a father and daughter.
Theodore Machado, 44, of French Camp and his 16-year-old daughter, Kianna Machad, of Rio Vista, died following the 1:35 p.m crash, a coroner’s spokesman said Sunday.
I drove by maybe twenty mins after the accident and spotted the yellow tarp covering the passenger side and about ten fire fighters standing and looking at the drivers side. The view of the accident made me gasp i knew no one could sustain that horrific accident. May they rest in peace!
There is a reason this is a safety corridor-daylight headlights on section. If i recall correctly a family was wiped out at that same intersection.
Two more people lost. How many more lives will this undivided highway take?
May they rest in peace.
At least you got this right unlike other papers, the Times lists it as Byron. Very sad. More safety is needed out that way. That blue car being crushed like that, I can’t imagine being a police officer or firefighter or emt on scene. very sad
When will this be updated? I know the people that died.
@Holly, we updated this story this morning with extra pictures. Original story had 1-person dead on scene and the other was transported with serious injuries. This morning we updated to reflect both victims did die from the accident. I’ve not included the names because I have not been made aware who they were by law enforcement. I also want to make sure families have been decently notified very first.
Ted and Kianna were my best friends brother and niece. The family is devastated. 🙁
This section of Marsh Creek Raod which the victim was turning onto is not in Discovery Bay it is in Byron.
Neither Marsh Creek Rd or Highway four goes into Byron. They both go to Discovery Bay. Check your google map. It looks like Burk was the only one to get it right.
More importantly, may the two individuals that perished rest in peace.
So very sad all here in rio vista are heartbroken ! Ted and Kianna will be very missed .I did not know them well but our kids go to school together and I just met Ted last year very nice man I just learned he was into some acting had puny jobs on A&E and more. Kianna was very pretty, kind , creative and so funny loved watching those kids in the school and community plays, all the kids knew her and loved her care free spirit . This is a devastating tragedy for our petite town.:(
Who are these seventeen and nineteen year olds? When and where did they have their accident.
Read the story. They weren’t seventeen and nineteen year olds…
Then Who is this Holly person who say’s she knows who was in the accident?
I misread this story and thought it was a different accident that two of my friends were in. Saturday morning. i didn’t have total details at the time so I assumed this was the wreck So no I am not an idiot. Truth you calling me an idiot makes you a jackass Im human and made a mistake.
There was an accident in gun barrel tx on Saturday morning that involved two people close to me that lost their lives. Tyler Mcmillan and Justin Luper
Holly, Very first of all I was not the one who called you an idiot. Secondly you should not ASSUME things before you get your facts.
Our community is mourning today and holding a candlelight vigil this evening. Please keep our children and the family in your prayers.
i was at a crimson light at the intersection in the work van as soon as it happened. Myself and several others got out of our car’s and attempted to help Ted. Community members came together and attempted everything they could. The harm and trauma is still haunting. The hardest part of it all was finding Kianna in the debris. None of us were able to see her right away. i’ll never leave behind the tow truck driver’s face when he was told she was in the vehicle. Does anyone know WHERE AND WHEN a service will be held for them?
Hello Sam T, I am Teds Aunt Jaci. The services are to be held at the Catholic Church in Rio Vista eleven am on May 13th. Feel free to call me 916-996-0452
Thank you for attempting to help Ted and Kianna at this horrific scene. We are still and will forever be heartbroken at the loss of these two wonderful and loved people in our town of Rio Vista.
I miss you ki , cherish your moments up der i love you, ill miss you forever, rip your dad&beautiful angel
I sent ‘Burk’ an email with this content and it was overlooked.
This accident could have been prevented and these lives could have been spared. That is all I will say. It is a tragedy. Just as significant is reporting the facts correctly so people can relate to where it happened. The following is what was sent to ‘Burk’. Yet no correction has been made.
Your story was extraordinaire/phots were exceptional but you have your facts incorrect. This horrific accident happened in BYRON NOT DISCOVERY BAY. WE HAVE LIVED HERE FOR eight YEARS AND OTHERS ON THIS END OF MARSH CREEK ROAD FOR 30+ IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN BYRON, There is an issue with this road that Mr. Machado was turning onto. If these issues had been addressed as the residents of this end of Marsh Creek Road have been asking for for five years these people would not have lost their lives.
Discovery Bay is east of Bixler Road.
It is significant that you report this accident as happening in the correct town. I cannot go in to details. If your a reporter please check your facts.
You can’t go into details? Why not?
Very first of all you do not know what you are talking about and I do not need a google map to tell me where I live. The residents on this end of Marsh Creek Raod that Mr. Machado was turning onto have lived here for eight to thirty years. We have always been located in BYRON and that is where the Assessors office has us.
In reporting a story as horrific as this it is significant the facts are reported correctly so the people can relate to WHERE IT HAPPENED. Even Kron four and Ktvu two got it right as did the highway patrol.
If you think that Byron is one little street where the Byron Bar is your incorrect. Byron covers a enormous area and Discovery Bay WAS BYRON UNTIL A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN THE RESIDENTS Wished THEIR OWN TOWN; WHICH DOES NOT GO OUTSIDE OF THEIR COMMUNITY.
You liKe ‘Burk’ need to get your facts corrected.
The loss of these two lives could have been prevented that is all I can say.
If you want to get technical and split hairs. its unincorporated Contra Costa County and just 200-300 yards from Discovery Bay’s border while over a mile away from Byron. I went with the closer city to identify where it occurred.
It doesn’t indeed matter where the incident occurred, but that two people died and the road needs more safety improvements ASAP.
It is Byron not Discovery Bay as reported.
Dah, we all know it is unincorparated CCC. wE LIVE HERE
It is NOT A MILE AWAY FROM BRYON THAT ACCIDENT HAPPENED LESS THAN 1/Two MILE FROM OUR HOUSE ON MCR. AND WE ARE IN BYRON AND SO IS HIGHWAY Four/BRYON HIGHWAY AND THAT INTERSECTION. CALL THE CHP THEY WILL TELL YOU THEY PATROL OUT HERE ALL THE TIME.
There is nothing technical about it. It is Significant that this accident was reported to have happend in Byron it has to do with getting safety addressed, something the resident here have been screaming about for five years. Lives were lost and we feel it was could have been prevented. IF YOU Proceed TO SAY DB IT IS PUTTING THE SAFETY ISSUE IN THE WRONG TOWN.
You don’t seem to get it so I am done!
@ dpr, double penetration, dsrp, dsr, and lemonellop,
I’m not necessarily sure why it is so significant to you, but I have to once again side with Burk on this one. I am familiar with the area and history, having lived here much longer than you. I was able to bring up the following map with a few clicks of the mouse.
The boundary of what is called Byron is limited to the petite downtown area which is depicted on all county maps.
While the smaller streets are not labeled, if you know the area then you can see that Disco Bay does go west of Bixler Rd. Both Marsh Creek Road and Highway four intersect with Discovery Bay, and neither even come close to Byron which is located off of J4 (see map link).
As Burk reported the area in question is not indeed in either Disco Bay or Byron, but is much closer to Disco Bay. He got it right.
Byron, is a census designated place which is actually the County. More than likely the other media is relying on old, outdated information. I very doubt if the traffic in the area is related any more to Byron than that of Disco Bay.
If it is traffic safety you are worried about I think attempting to make this about your individual location is strange. The entire spread of Highway four inbetween Brentwood and Disco (including the intersection of Marsh Creek) is in a highway Safety Corridor and daylight “headlights on” section of road. Since neither of us know what indeed caused the accident and attempting to label the scene Byron or Disco Bay truly has no bearing. what other safety measure or issue do you have in mind?
I have my facts straight and unlike you I didn’t need to “SHOUT” at the computer to attempt to get my point across. How old are you, Five? By the way Byron is not spelled Bryon which you did more than once. “Me thinks” if you actually lived there you would know how to spell it.
The long and brief of it was that Burk is right, and you are wrong. Get over it.
Not the switch the subject but do you recall the accident where a truck explosion of teenagers were ejected and killed? I think it was in the early 80’s. Wasn’t that inbetween Marsh Creek Rd and Byron Highway? If I reminisce correctly, that was one of the driving coerces behind the Safety Corridor and the ban on railing in the back of trucks.
YES,Our Son was the very first to react he was a paramedic he has never forgotten it. Even tho this intersection was for safety it created other horriffic unsafe conditions that affect us and our neighbors.
Two of my high school friends died in the accident you mention… it was horrible.
YOU HAD BETTER (AND YES I AM SHOUTING BECAUSE YOU CAN’T HEAR!) CALL THE ASSESSORS OFFICE AND THE CHP AND TELL THEM THEY HAVE ALL OF US IN THE WRONG CITY. YOU ARE A Masturbate AND DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT; IT ISN’T THE MAP THAT RUNS THIS AREA IS IT THE CC ASSESSOR. THE MAPS ARE NOT ACCURATE THAT IS WHY NO ONE CAN FIND US THAT WAY. AND, DON’T YOU KNOW YOUR SUPPOSED TO CAPITALIZE THE Very first LETTER OF THE Very first WORD OF A Fresh SENTENCE. OHHHHH DID WE MAKE A TYPO
Had better what? Barrage you with more facts? (For the record, I knew you weren’t done).
If you look closely at the county map you can see it is not done by the assessor’s office, because it is not his purview. The Assessor and his clerks have no jurisdiction or authority over boundaries. Call his office if you don’t believe me. His name is Gus Kramer, look it up!
I am sure the CHP as well would be blessed to modify their outdated location designations; I suggest you contact them as well or if you like I can. Just say the word.
Even when you are right you are wrong. My typo was a period instead of a comma. No need to capitalize after a comma. But just the same, my mistake and thank you for catching it! Now you need to get a grip on the rest of this. You don’t get to choose where Byron is. That has already been determined. Check out the shiny fresh signs that are 1/Two way down J4 (far away from your house) welcoming you to Byron. Check out the official and current county map which put you miles outside of Byron, because last time I checked the news channels and the CHP were not in charge of land designation.
p.s. SE, this is a blog site, for exchanging of information and opinion. Not a place people come to mourn. I am sure the people that were close to the families could care less. Please stop attempting to play the martyr.
Byron is East County’s version of the movie cars ”Radiator Springs”. The location of the crash truly doesn’t matter and its irrelevant. I think it’s rather pathetic you want this accident in Byron for nothing more than making an argument for safety improvements. The road is long and should be address as a entire, not so one little radiator springs type of town can benefit. Two people lost their lives, lets respect that and stop attempting to pick a fight on something as ditzy as the town. Looknig at the map, I’ll side with Burk.
Please, this article is not about the name of a city. It’s about a father and daughter who lost their lives. Judging by the other comments, family and friends are coming to this site to pay their respects and express their love for the two souls that were lost, not to read bickering about a name. For the love of all that is good in the world, please respect these people’s memory and take your arguments someplace else. You all have valid points but this is not the place to discuss them. If there is something to be learned from this tragedy, it is that we should love those we hold dear and realize we are all in this world together and we all have things to learn from and instruct to one another.
SE, this is a blog site, for exchanging of information and opinion. Not a place people come to mourn. I am sure the people that were close to the families could care less. Please stop attempting to play the martyr.
Any place the family or friends might go to find information on their loved ones or to pay their respects is considered a place to mourn. Would you tell a grieving person to leave a restaurant or get off the side of the road because “it’s not a place to mourn”? More than anything I feel sorry for you, that you could be so sultry about the name of where you live yet so callous as to people’s feelings. I’ll beg for you along with these two souls and their friends and family and I honestly mean that with no bad intent or malice whatsoever.
I agree this ECV person thinkS he/she can run this site and his/her comments and opinions are gospel. He has no right to condemn you for your loving thoughts for those who lost their lives as well as those who loved them.
This is an open forum and if you feel voicing your trouble and condolances help you I think you have every right and I agree it is a horrific outcome of an accident that could have been prevented. Now innumerable lives are being sadly touched by this event and we all as human beings need this interaction.
I don’t want you to think we do not suffer for those affected and those who lost their lives; that the name of the city is more significant; we actually have been involved with our neighbors for five long years attempting to get just this type of event prevented. Unluckily those who run things have their own agenda. But we are not providing up.
We were at that intersection on Saturday, it is close to our home. It made us outraged that two youthfull lives; yes, the Dad was just a youthful age too, were lost and it could have been prevented. My heart was cracking as we viewed the aftermath.
I have grandchildren that travel that highway and our road it scares me to death every time they come here.
You keep telling what is on your mind; it is still our right who knows how long we will have THAT.
Thank you for your post p and I couldn’t agree with you more p. You sound like a very loving and caring grandparent and this accident truly struck a cord for me and made me very emotional (even tho’ I don’t know the victims) because I drove by it a few minutes after it happened. I’m a father and was driving with my two year old daughter to go see her grandparents in Disco Bay when we spotted the accident and the firefighters attempting to extract the driver. When I read later on that it was a father and daughter who passed away in the accident my heart sank. I apologize if I seemed over emotional in my previous post but the loss of these two souls has just indeed struck close to home for me. I thank you for your respect, but more importantly for your passion to make these roads safer, which like yourself, I travel with my loved ones everyday. We can all agree that tragedies like these should be prevented at all cost and if that means clearly defining where the accident occurred, so be it. I just didn’t want the concentrate of the comments and this discussion to turn from these two people and their grieving friends and family. I’m sure when things like this happen, we all hold our children, grandchildren, friends, or family a little closer and realize that every moment we get to spend on this Earth with our loved ones is precious and should be appreciated to the fullest.
P= Hypocrisy. P has the stones to talk about preaching? Are you friggen kidding me? I think I just threw up a little.
You are not the blog police! My spouse say’s your a hooligan!
We will beg for you
All of you… lets stop with the attacks of one another and figure out ways that none of these incidents ever happen again. I don’t want to police this board but I will begin deleting posts if I have to.
Actually it looks to me like SE and P are attempting to police this board and make up some kind of rule(s). I happen to agree with ECV on this one and think he/she has just as much right to comment on “whatever”, just as SE and P have a right to do the same. Where I see the difference is that P and SE are attempting to disqualify an issue by playing the pity card. That itself is pitiful.
I think we all want to see the roadways in east county be as safe as possible, no matter what city, town or area they are in. In the meantime let people express their opinions and facts as they see fit. That after all is the purpose of a blog.
A few things are for sure;
The world will proceed to spin, and the Byron/ Disco Bay feud will proceed. For some reason the few people in Byron are stuck in the 1900’s. That most likely won’t switch.
Thank You Ted’s Aunt
Given the way Byron folks are acting on this page and the good amount of disrespect they are showcasing I can see why their town has failed to progress and instead regress. What a shame.
Barbara, this is what I found under a search. It looks like the safety corridor was commenced in early 2000’s. Not sure about the year railing in the back of a pickup truck became illegal in CA.
What everyone here is this road Mr. Machado was turing onto is a dangerous brief cut created by the improved intersection and these people should never have lost their lives had the POWERS THAT BE that run this county had headed our warnings over the last five years.
THAT IS WHY IT IS Significant TO REPORT THE CORRECT TOWN AND LOCATION SO IT BECOMES PUBLIC RECORD OF LIVES LOST THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN.
THIS TRAGEDY IS ON THE Mitts OF THOSE WHO CHOSE TO USE THEIR POWER TO Overlook THIS EXACT PROBLEM
ps that accident killing six people happened in the early 90’s. Our son was a medic and had to check each assets for life and found none. Do you think he has forgotten that? NO! Now he has two youthful adult children that must travel this road and the highway to come and see their grandparents. That is why this is so significant that this town add this fatality to their records; maybe we can prevent future losses.
Geez This is unbelievable
Yes, HWY four is a bad road. I myself drive it all the time. We need to keep in mind that everyone has a right to there own opion(s). Accually, every where is a bad place even your own home. We can not predict what is going to happen, it just happens!
I, also witnessed the scene after the accident happened as I was on my way home from work. All I could think about was the people that where involved. How they and their families are affected. It brought some tears to my eyes. I hope that Mr. Machado and his daughter RIP! As to the family my preyer’s are with you! Love, Respect and Charish what you have…………
You poked it. I couldn’t have said it better myself!
Prayers go out to the family and let’s hope we all drive a little more cautiously as a result of these tragic accidents.
My big bro strikes me up all the time. I attempted to tell him the accident was in the Ag Core of the county. I even attempted to tell him that Gus Kramer is retired, He just keeps listening to the voices in his head. Glad I got the better genes. Indeed, that intersection has always been bad. The crossing at Walnut is just as bad too.
Thanks again for the quick peek into your make-believe world. There must be a lot of noise that pointy little head of yours!
Gus Kramer retired? Indeed. Someone might want to tell him because he is still demonstrating up for work every day and collecting a paycheck! Maybe you should also alert his clerks that their boss has retired with out them even knowing. Bro, that is going to be news!!
Come on little brother, my facts will always trump your delusions. After all, we both know you are from the shallow end of the gene pool.
Now time to take your meds. There is a seat reserved just for you on the brief bus as long as you stop gobbling the windows. Doesn’t that make you special?
Ughhh I drove by right as it happened and spotted that poor little female draping outside of the car. It’s the very first accident I’ve seen. Drive cautiously everyone.
AMEN HIS ELEVATOR DOESN’T GO ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP
WE have no intention of exposing details to someone who rejects to report the facts. We have five years invested in attempting to making our road safe and we are not providing up; especially now that two people lost their lives, it is related!
Like we said; these two people did not have to die on Saturday. And your refusal to place the accident in the decent town; I don’t care if you call it unincorprated or what ever we know that WEaall live out here, but it is NOT Discovery Bay. We are on farm land and we do not have a hallway or a boat behind our homes. When you say Discovery Bay you are leading the readers to believe it happened somewhere other than where it did. Mis-reporting like this makes it difficult for the residents attempting to fight the County Powers that be; we need all the accurate information we can collect and THIS IS Big. Two people died and they didn’t have to that is all you need to know. We are not providing up; because the CHP works with us and we are certain they will give us the decent information to add to the fat file we have worked tirelessly to accumulate. We beg we are successful; if it is due to this horrible incident then maybe we can save others in their name.
dpr, I am Teds Aunt and I have been reading this blog all day. I am a stiff believer in things happening for a reason. However my trouble is beyond anything I can explain, I was thinking that hopefully this horrible tragedy will lead to saving other lives. I didn’t know this highway had such a bad reputation. I beg that the powers that be take this matter into serious consideration. If there is anything I can do to help, Please let me know.
I’ve been following this article since the beginning. DPR, I realize you are sultry about your cause. It emerges this cause has something to do with a road in Byron somewhere. Evidently it is dangerous, but since you keep telling “someone died, that is all you need to know,” no one is able to understand your concerns. Are you accumulating some kind of file on all the accidents that are taking place on this particular concerning open up of road? If so, why can’t you divulge the problems you perceive this area to have? I would sure like to know if a particular street I am likely to drive on has a specific danger known to the local residents (too narrow, undivided, potholes, cattle, etc). Unless they want to keep that issue a secret so there are a lot more accidents to prove their point, which is exactly how you are coming across. You do realize public perception will get a cause greater notice? Right now all I see is someone telling, “There’s a major problem on this road, but I’m not going to tell you what it is. I want to get as many incidents recorded in my file as possible, so I’m not going to tell anyone what the problem is until there are enough to prove my point.” Two people just died. You have a fine forum right here to make many in the area aware of your concerns regarding this road and get behind your cause. And you are gargling it royally.
Yours is nothing more than an emotional rant with motives unrelated to the loss of the two lives or the “area” of which it took place. It emerges you are a confused individual who is attempting to use an unfortunate accident for individual benefit. You simply want to chastise Burk and others for refusing to buy into your “opinions” and confusion. The issue is ordinary; Your opinions are not facts.
Point one- Posting as “PDR, DRP, P, DSR, p, KMA/DSR, dsrp, dsr, pdr, double penetration and d”, only makes you look desperate.
Point two- The name of the area in relation to the accident data of Highway Four, including Marsh Creek Rd has no bearing on your safety position. Highway four has already been deemed a hazardous roadway and designated as a safety corridor.
Point three- How can you not know where Discovery Bay and Byron are located? You are located in neither, but if you live on Marsh Creek Rd, you are closer to Discovery Bay. That is a elementary fact and one which you cannot switch. By writing; “We do not have a cavern or a boat behind our homes” It is demonstrable you are unaware that a large part of Discovery Bay is not on the water, and furthermore, backs up to Marsh Creek Rd. Byron does not, in reality, it’s not even close.
And a final point- You wrote; “Mis-reporting like this makes it difficult for the residents attempting to fight the County Powers that be; we need all the accurate information we can collect and THIS IS Gigantic.” I am wondering, if you indeed think this is meaty and accurate information is significant, why do you think you would be able to persuade the “County Powers” that be, that you know better? It’s almost like you are insinuating that they don’t know where Byron is? Where Discovery Bay is? Where this intersection is located? Don’t you see how that would be problematic right out of the gate? If you come in with bad information, where does that leave you? I believe that most of us on this message board view this simply as another tragedy on Highway 4-a highway with a dangerous legacy. Steps have been taken by many others to make it safer and from what I have read online they have been largely successful. I remain confused why the location is so significant to you? Hidden agenda?
You also stated; “we actually have been involved with our neighbors for five long years attempting to get just this type of event prevented. Unluckily those who run things have their own agenda.”
So I ask two very elementary questions;
What have you done to get “just this type of event prevented”? What is your agenda?
It makes me wonder, maybe it is you that can’t hear (or rather aren’t listening). You wrote; “YOU HAD BETTER (AND YES I AM SHOUTING BECAUSE YOU CAN’T HEAR!) CALL THE ASSESSORS OFFICE AND THE CHP AND TELL THEM THEY HAVE ALL OF US IN THE WRONG CITY. YOU ARE A Masturbate AND DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT;”
Are you aware that neither is a city? That would be a fact. So based on what you wrote, it would emerge that you don’t know what you are talking about. Recognize a pattern here?
These people lost their lives on Highway Four, not Marsh Creek Road. No one is ever going to take you earnestly when you attempt to arch reality as you do. We don’t know the cause of this accident, so why don’t you begin by coming clean on your motives? That would be the right thing to do instead of misleading Jaci. Don’t you think her family has suffered enough?
I am sooo sorry for you loss. I hate to think this horrible tragedy will be the defining event that will help us in our endeavor to make our road safe. Albeit the Highway has been an issue it is the Road your Nephew was turning onto I am referring to. Do you know where your Nephew and his Daughter were heading?
Please give our condolences to your family and friends. Our prayers are going your way.
Thanks. Ted was heading to French Camp. That is where his gf lives. Ki was to attend her prom that night with my daughter Kim in Rio Vista. Unnecessary to say, the prom was canceled midway. I had to tell her sister and my daughter about the accident. If this accident is what it takes to fix that road, then so be it. I am grieving but if there is anything I can do to help this cause please let me know. Again your thoughts are so kind. God Bless you too Jaci
If only Ted had taken highway four instead of turining on our Road as a brief cut.
It is just devastating to hear about Kim and the Prom. My Grandson and his Gf went to their JR Prom two weeks ago. Our Granddaughter just turned 21; we and Mom and Dad cringe when they are out driving it just isn’t safe with the texting, cell phones and speed we all are at risk. I am sooo sorry; It just isn’t fair that these two souls left this world way too soon.
Our prayers are with you all.
After reading your most latest post I have a few questions. How do you know that the person (Ted?) was turning into your road as a brief cut? Has any official CHP accident report been issued and if so why would you have it? I drive through that area often and it emerges the accident in question occurred on the Highway-am I looking at the wrong crash site? (While driving up to the intersection I noted a large CalTrans sign which reads “Byron two mi”).
I also notice that you asked for an apology from Burk and another poster, but failed to response the questions directed to you.
This entire thing seems suspect.
This is my last post on this issue. I am indeed weary of the ignorant comments and condescening attitudes you all wield.
Mr. Machado was in the South tied ‘turn lane’ and was turing East onto Marsh Creek Raod from Highway four when he was struck in the intersection by a AAA tow truck. We do not know who was at fault. If you have been to the site then you can see the CHP markings on the pavement. It is pretty clear what happened.
That isn’t significant what is is the loss of these two peoples lives in our community.
The ‘Byron two mi’ is correct. The lil’ town of Byron is two miles up the road by the railroad tracks. But BYRON is a giant area.
I have confirmation from the assessors office that others including this Burk person and ECV turns down to acknowledge stating the assessors don’t know what they are talking about. Well we have been paying our taxes under a Byron address for ten years and our neighbors for even longer. We don’t even have a polling place we have to vote by mail BECAUSE WE AND ALL FOUR CORNERS OF THIS INTERSECTION are in Byron.
I might add that CCC improved this intersection and then gave it over to Cal Trans.
I very doubt that the above was your last post on this issue, if it was then I am worthy of you labeling me ignorant. It is my believe that petite minded people often find condescending attitudes in those not sharing their viewpoints.
I am not sure what happened at the intersection to cause the accident, but evidently you missed the point. I thought it was demonstrable but evidently not so I will ask it again (a little clearer this time).
You wrote: “If only Ted had taken highway four instead of turning on our Road as a brief cut.”
I asked: “How do you know that the person (Ted?) was turning into your road as a brief cut?”
For clarity I am asking, how you could possibly know that someone from out of town (French Camp) was using Marsh Creek Road as a “Brief Cut”. Maybe a better question is, a brief cut to where? (I found it strange that you were interjecting the entire “brief cut” idea).
I drive that road now and then and I would never think of using that section of Marsh Creek Rd as a shortcut off of the highway. I’m not coaxed it is a brief cut to anywhere.
That is the basis of my question to you. Hopefully that clears it up and you can response it if you choose.
As for the exact location of your home address you might want to take that up with the County Board of Supervisors. I believe they have jurisdiction, since you don’t seem to live in a city. I personally would not drape my hat on an opinion from a blog or response to a question via an internet web site.
I hope this clears things up for you. Sorry if it was condescending.
What vagueness of what email? The assessors office and I wrote back and forward and the facts were verified by parcel numbers and maps of this intersection and M C Rd. That is where they concluded that ALL four CORNERS OF THAT INTERSECTION IS BYRON! That is what it was on Saturday and that is what it is now!
What does updating have to do with the present? That is when the accident happened. If your a news reporter then you should care about accurate reporting I already told you that.
It seems you are stuck in the same groove as ECV since you choose to side with his rants to me and others as not bullying. Telling someone not to post mournful emails? Truly.
Hey All, I came upon this blog on accident just looking for information on how my Ted and Ki died. Call it weird but I needed to know something. Very first of all Id like to thank everyone for their heart felt messages. I am so touched by strangers that don’t even know us telling things like RI
P, God Bless, Prayers your way. When you go through something like this you don’t realize how many people are affected. I beg for the tow truck driver and the passenger and every one that witnessed this horrible accident. My only solice is that I know Ki went instantly and I want to thank everyone that attempted to save Ted. God Bless You All
To put the issue of in what town this accident occur please see the email below from the inquiry I sent to the assessors office. I think it is pretty clear they know what they are talking about they sent me a map as well.
YOU BOTH OWE ME AND THE OTHER BLOGGERS AN APPOLOGY!
From: Pat [mailto: ccc assessors office
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, two thousand thirteen 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Question
In what city is the Intersection on Highway four and the Eastern most end of Marsh Creen Road.
Thank you for a reponse by email.
From: Greg Codori
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, two thousand thirteen Ten:Ten AM
Subject: RE: Question
All four sides of this intersection is Byron.
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, two thousand thirteen 11:55 AM
Subject: RE: Question
Your question was forwarded to a staff member for response to you.
You should receive a response today.
Assessor’s Customer Services Coordinator
Contra Costa County Assessor’s Office
two thousand five hundred thirty Arnold Drive, Suite 400, Martinez, CA 94553-4395
Phone: (925) 313-7507 Fax: (925) 313-7660
Please relieve a bit, we are talking about unincorporated Contra Costa County where the records have not been updated for decades. It has been brought to my attention, very possibly, misinformation provided to you based off the vagueness of your email.
Don’t be astonished if you see a correction shortly.
On a positive note, at the very least, the county can begin updating their records which is a benefit to your cause and the rest of the county.
THIS WAS THE ORG. MSSG. SENT MARSH CREEK ROAD WAS NOT MISSPELLED.
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, two thousand thirteen Trio:49 PM
Can you please email me the response to this question.
In what City is the Intersection of Highway Four/Byron Highway and the Eastern most section of Marsh Creek Road (This section of Marsh Creek Rd. is Inbetween Highway four (intersection) and Bixler)
It is truly significant.
Thank you for your time
Not sure what the final ruling is on this but you may want to check back with the assessor.
Neither Discovery Bay or Byron was or is a City. The closest “City” to that location is Brentwood, and I believe if you reside there, your zip code reflects this.
Hopefully you got an response to your question, as for me I’m still waiting.
I think the point has beeen lost that we need to understand what happened and how can it be avoided in the future. But the road is not dangerous it is the drivers on the road that make it dangerous to travel by not obeying traffic laws. Because of this two people lost their lives long before their time. But it is still significant to find out what went wrong so that it doesn’t happen again. Whether that means more patrols on the road to prevent reckless driving or this horrible accident making all of us rethink how we act behind the wheel and to be more cautious when we drive. We never know when something we do can effect somebody else on the road.
You are exactly the kind of person we DO NOT WANT; you are a condescending hooligan and it is none of your business what our agenda is. It is evident you did not get my latest post; a copy of an email from the county assessors office stating all four corners of that intersection are BYRON!
NOW STOP COMMENTING ON EMAILS I POST TO OTHER PEOPLE IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. I WOULD ADVISE YOU TO STOP NAME CALLING AS WELL. I HAVE COPIES OF ALL OF THESE POSTS. AND YOU ARE BOARDERING ON HARRASSMENT.
Our concerns are valid and our business and will be made public at the suitable time. Now stop including me in your rants.
Burk Ruling, no bullying has occurred.
Exactly what are you telling? You seem to shout in circles? It is everyone’s business when you post on a public forum regarding your views especially when you are incorrect with your assumptions and opinions.
Additionally I have been made aware that the reply you received from the assessor’s office was not correct in the context you were hoping for. I believe a correction or clarification will be issued, so I’ll save my apology. For starters you should most likely take your concerns up with the county district supervisors since they are the ones responsible for setting community boundaries. While you are doing that, you might want to talk to Caltrans about that hefty sign at the intersection that puts Byron at least two miles away (thanks B-Wood for posting that!). I am sure they have internet, phones and staff and would be very glad to educate you.
I indeed didn’t think this would ever have to be said, but for you I’ll make an exception. Stop posting on the internet, and a public forum if you don’t want comments directed back at incorrect information that you are suggesting.
You are in no position to suggesting harassment-especially when you have played so liberate with the facts. You are also the same individual that insists on internet screaming by typing in all caps which is considered shouting when it comes to online etiquette. (Sometimes called “Netiquette”.) My correcting you with facts does not “border” on harassment and if you don’t like being corrected you have the right to disregard it. Plain and elementary, it is your choice to read, write and react. Get over it.
Of course your own concerns are valid to you. That was never a question.
I asked you what your agenda was? Not a particularly complicated question. I am sure I am not the only that has noticed you avoided the response. You are welcome to clear the air and reaction it at any time. Until then, you are exchanging nothing but hot air and wasting key strokes.
ps THE ABOVE REPLY WAS TO ECV
vagueness of what email? The assessors office and I wrote back and forward and the facts were verified by parcel numbers and maps of this intersection and M C Rd. That is where they concluded that ALL four CORNERS OF THAT INTERSECTION IS BYRON! That is what it was on Saturday and that is what it is now!
What does updating have to do with the present? That is when the accident happened. If your a news reporter then you should care about accurate reporting I already told you that.
It seems you are stuck in the same groove as ECV since you choose to side with his rants to me and others as not bullying. Telling someone not to post mournful emails? Indeed.
Ki was one of my best friends and I read this article and comments for helpful information on all that happened. If anyone has any details as to how the crash happened or how ki died, I’d like to hear.
What is wrong with you people? Let’s be literal. IT IS A TOWN THEN.
We have no choice about our zip code the USPO put us in the Brentwood PO because the BYRON PO on Bixler ended up in the Discovery Bay annex. WE LIVE IN BYRON THE ASSESSORS OFFCIE WROTE ME AND CONFIRMED IT YESTERDAY And yet you people proceed to put you two cents in and you don’t know what your talking about. Even Mike Burk, who should know, claims the records are out-dated intead if admitting he was wrong in reporting where this accident occured.
From: Greg Codori ccc Assessors Office
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, two thousand thirteen Ten:Ten AM
Subject: RE: Question
All four sides of this intersection is Byron.
CITY, TOWN WHO THE H CARES I AM SICK OF THIS
ON Saturday this intersection was in Vyron, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Today and all the days into the future until someone tells us differt. We pay our taxes based on a Byron Address.
Does that clear it up or are you going to keep going on and on about it?
Byron, Typo, don’t want any comments about that. I am not writing a Thesis so don’t write me about mispelled words
I am just writing to see how you and your family and friends are doing. I know the heartbreak and the feeling of vulnerability that goes after such a tragedy.
It concerns me to see the youthfull friends of Ki posting; they are so vunerable I hope they have alot of support. Our youngest Grandson is seventeen so we get it.
We have experienced eight losses (all of my family within five months two brothers my sister and her spouse) four very close friends , one took her life because she couldn’t bear the loss of our mutural friend just in the last three years and I understand the slot that is in your life right now. Just reminisce God never gives us more than we can treat. I attempt to lean on my faith and trust in God’s plan. It isn’t effortless.
If it is ok with you I would like to call you in a few weeks when things ease up. You left you number on a previous mssg. but I will not call without your o.k.
With Love and our Deep Sympathy
Hi Pat, We are all devastated. Its like a wave, one minute your ok, then BAM it hits you again. If it weren’t for my faith I don’t think I could treat this. Sure you can call me. The heart felt thoughts and prayers on this blog have been so nice and very touching.
One day at a time
I know the feeling it is surreal. I think that is how we get through it.
When I was twenty one I was seven months along with our Son (who ended up being a paramedic and saved uncountable lives and eyed things I could never imagine)during a flash rain storm in August my parents went over a cliff on their way to Carson City. On our way up there with our three year old Daughter I found out my Mother had died while I was standing in a phone booth in Sacramento. Of all the people I have lost over the years that stay’s with me like it was yesterday. My Son never knew his grandmother and she was a wonderful Nana. Life is just not fair and it is hard. I indeed think we live our Hell on earth. There has to be something better.
Hold on to your memories and keep them alive it helps.
Drape on to your loved ones and friends reaching out is so significant.
I will be thinking of you Monday.
Write me if you need to talk.
You are so sweet and Thank You for the support. Im not looking forward to Monday, but we will get through it. Oh the memories are awesome. And YES there is something better 🙂
When things quiet down write me ok?
I have been watching this blog since Sunday and have been holding my comments until I could obtain facts about this tragedy.
Albeit blogs are a sounding board of public opinion I am stunned to see the way ECV, B-Wood and Mike Burks’ continous rude responses to one blogger (Pat) who has only attempted to correct the incorrect information given by the reporter in his story. It seems demonstrable it is an significant factor to an significant cause.
A reporter who turns down to report the facts of this accident because of pride or being incapable to admit a wrong should re-think his/her profession. There seems to be a moral issue here yet all three bloggers are intent on disrespectful comments instead of witnessing the importance this person places on this terrible tragedy. Mr. Burk even stated he picked the closest ‘City’; Discovery Bay is not a City. We have way too much misinformation fed to us in the media as it is.
Accounts of this accident were accurately reported on Major news stations in the Bay Area like Channel two News and KRON four News. Kron four news came to the scene and actually interviewed the CHP on the day of the accident. The CHP officer noted the accident occured at the Intersection of Highway four and Marsh Creek Road in Byron. The news reporter signed off telling’ this is *reporter* KRON four News reporting live from Byron.
The good thing is these people who are obviously fighting for some sort of safety issue can rely on that reporting which is more reliable. I think Pat should take convenience in that because she got no where in this forum.
It seems WHERE it happened IS as significant as WHY it happened. Especially if there seems to be an ongoing safety issue some local residents seem to be attempting to get addressed. That seems to have been dismissed in a rude way by all three of the bloggers which, to me, makes it seem like lost lives are not worth preventing and they are more intent on being right instead of validating the efforts of this group. Maybe if one of these three bloggers had lost a relative or friend in this accident they might see things differently.
If you were part of a group who has worked for five years (as stated by Pat) towards improved safety with no one willing to hear or act on their prayers and then have two people die as a result, would you not be outraged?
In reading the blogs I get the indication this accident might have been prevented and I don’t think these three bloggers are being fair in insisting on facts from Pat that may compromise five years of working toward what ever objective they may have.
And, those who have been making rude and ignorant comments have been insisting on those details. If I had been spoken to in the way Pat was I would never disclose anything to these individuals. They certainly do not have a positive agenda and I am sure these residents do not want negativity infused into their endeavors.
I just spoke with the CHP in Martinez to get the facts of this accident and where it happened according to their report. The blogger who has been attempting to make the point of this accident being reported in the correct area is right and they way this blogger has been mistreated is something this site should not have let happen. Yet I see that Mike Burk, who obviously manages this site and who wrote the story incorrectly, is siding with these two other bloggers inflamatory comments, when he should remain unbiased and correct his story to reflect the truth.
I just spoke to the Assessors office and, in spite of Mr. Burk’s comments, there is no instantaneous plan to update what Mr. Burk calls outdated records and boundries. The spokes person at the Assessors office confirmed all four corners of the Intersection on Higheway four and Marsh Creek Road are located in Byron (not Discovery Bay). And, there is no plan to switch that.
I do not understand why Mr. Burk insists on calling it just an unincorporated area to side step the fact he did not report the facts and take responsibility. Should he have reported this accident happened in an unincorporated area of Contra Costa County then? That would pinpoint it right?
I choose not post the detailed accounts of the accident and who ultimately violated traffic safty laws. Anyone who wishes this information can contact the CHP in Martinez.
The fact remains, no matter who made this poor judgement resulting in this accident, two lives were lost. Unluckily we are all human and make mistakes. Sadly this one can’t be taken back and I can understand the outrage Pat feels about these lost lives and the influence on everyone who knew them. It seems to me everyone should rally to help any one or any group who is working to prevent this type of tragedy not condemn them with rude comments.
A Man on the side of ‘Safety’ and Fairness
You sure spent a lot of time spinning that yarn. I checked up on it and you. You wasted your time.
It is all a valant effort at hyperbole and not even worth a response. Nice attempt.
Hope that wasn’t to harsh for you.
You think your pretty clever don’t you? You say you spoke to CHP, yet you list no contact names or when you called. You say you can’t post because it would crack traffic safety laws, when in fact, if that were true, CHP would never have told you details of this incident.
Also, you say you spoke with County Assessor’s Office, again I ask who? Did you happen to ask when they last updated the maps? The response would shock you. For the record, it’s not the County Assessor’s office who would switch borders, but rather CoCo Supervisors with LAFCO. Assessors simply assign the parcels for tax purposes known as Tax Rate Areas or TRA’s.
In fact, it has been reported to me that Greg’s supervisor was aware of the error that was sent and I will go after up in the near future with an extra article faithful to that subject. Pat should have identified why she was asking and stated she was going to share it for a more thorough explanation. The assessor’s office was not too pleased that Pat misused the information provided. I’ve also talked to a former Discovery Bay and LAFCO official who stated this was this was unincorporated Contra Costa County and confirmed its closer to Discovery Bay. The reality is, as I’ve already stated, this happened in unincorporated Contra Costa and I used Discovery Bay as the closest town to identify the location.
Again, Marsh Creek Road does not go into Byron.
Yes, I admit I used “city” in a comment instead of “town”, the article however stated neither. That is not necessarily misinformation being reported, but rather a discussion in the comment section—folks on here who you are defending couldn’t even spell Byron. I could then shoot back at your for referring to people in the comment section as “bloggers” instead of “commentators”, but I won’t. We all misspeak/mistype at times; it’s not the end of the world.
Eventually, I’d also like to address the rudeness comment, I was far from rude. The fact is, you’re very likely a friend of Pat, which is fine, but what gives her the credentials to tackle safety and be the expect on Marsh Creek Road or Byron Highway or shout at other posters. Is it just because she lives there and makes observations? She has never identified the work she has done or progress she has evidently made in five years’ time. What is her end aim? Again, never stated or answered. If it’s a good objective, I’d love to even do a story on it and support her in that effort—but it’s never been collective.
Dr. Don, there can be no doubt after that post that you are indeed a card-carrying, t-shirt wearing idiot.
Brow hammering the people at the Assessor’s office would be consistent with your M.O. of carpeting bombing various county offices with unending records requests. I seem to recall you being rebuffed repeatedly on or about Apr 11, thirteen and sixteen when you went hounding the medical people. It would show up since you didn’t get the pat on the head you so despairingly seek there, that you have moved on to annoy others to sate your psychosis.
For both you and Pat, here’s a plain question: what on God’s Green Earth does the Assessor have to do with safety improvements on a highway? They don’t compile accident data. It’s not their job. They do, however, proceed to send out property tax bills to Discovery Bay residents with incorrect zip codes on them six years after it was officially switched. What does yours say, Don?
But that’s your source for authoritative information?
If you, as you claim, called a CHP representative and obtained detailed information not yet public about this incident, I would like to have names. What is the CHP doing providing such details to some T-shirt tail tugging yahoo like you? Especially over an incident involving numerous fatalities and potential liabilities? Personally I think you made that up, something which you do fairly frequently because you assume no one will call you on it. It’s no mystery why local officials(and I’m not talking the ones you regularly stalk) can so lightly, and unsolicited, put the phrase “pathological liar” in the same sentence with your name.
On this downright ridiculous argument of the location of the site and its influence on public safety. Shut up already! You people don’t showcase a gobble of common sense or logic. To actually suggest that labeling this as happening in Byron makes a bit of difference in safety improvement would NEVER pass the smell test. You are fully bullsheeting the readers and exploiting an unfortunate tragedy. Pat because she’s got some secret file she’s building and some secret agenda that no one can hear about and Don just because he likes being a Putz……regularly.
Highway four is already designated a safety corridor in that area! Are you thinking this Byron BS campaign will make a super secret squirrel safety corridor? Where in the hell are you going with this? Any objective person reading this crap would, and rightly so, think you are all off your nut.
Get a life, people. Find something better to do with your time than this sociopathic garbage campaign you’re running. You’re trampling the memory of two human beings with your little games and private agendas.
Don, you should stick to sitting on five gal buckets outside Safeway with your sad-sack pity party campaigns. The visual alone is a gem and one for the archives. Your contributions lower the IQ of any discussion of local issues and this one was no different.
Please refrain from name calling.
We had to run an errand yesterday and I thought you would like to know there are flowers and actual framed photos of Ted and Kiana at the scene. Kiana was a lovely youthful woman and her Dad much too youthful. It certainly brings reality.
Did they know people who live here or have other family here? Rio Vista and French Camp are pretty far from here so we thought they might be visiting someone.
If you feel convenient can you leave your email address here so I can write you privately. If you don’t want to thats ok. I can’t call you I came down with horrible bronchitas yesterday and I have no voice and won’t for a week. I haven’t been sick since my two Brothers passed away in Feb. 06. I am not blessed! lol.
I will witness for your reply; then I am thinking of unsubscribing to this site;
I just can’t stop thinking about you and watching those photographs broke my heart.
Drape in there, hope to hear back from you.
I am a friend of Ted and Kianna. It’s been eleven days since the accident and I still am having a hard time wrapping my head around what happened at this intersection of Byron Hwy and Marsh Creek road. I can’t imagine anyone, much less Ted, pulling in front of a tow truck traveling at 50mph. He was a very safe driver. How swift was the truck indeed going? How could they have not seen each other? What are the conditions at this light that everyone from the area are worried about and want to improve? WHAT HAPPENED?
its nice to see all the people who cared and attempted to get ted out of there… ki has been my best friend for years and i miss her dearly. i was supposed to attend prom that night but was too sick so i stayed home. when i received a text from my friend i thought it was a sick joke and i indeed wish it was. she was such a beautiful and funny person…. i love you Ki. miss you forever R.I.P.
Just checking in to see how you are doing
The days are long. Still on real.
it’s lonely here without you ki.
Thinking of you often and each time I see the memorial. Do you know why Ted and Kianna were out this way? Did they have family near by ?
Everyone needs to slow down out there and leave some room. I drive that part of road/hwy/street regularly and many people are driving WAAAY over the speed limit. People are making life switching, split 2nd decisions when driving way too prompt and its causing deaths. I would be amazed if that tow truck driver was truly only going 50mph. I have been tailgated by tow trucks on Hwy four (not in this area of Hwy Four) when I’m going 75mph in the rapid lane!! Why am I going 75mph? Because thats going with the flow these days, and inevitably someone (often in a truck) will be tailgating me! Slow down people and leave some room…train your kids too. R.I.P. Kianna and Ted, didn’t know you, but you were obviously loved.
Kianna Machado was one of the greatest people in anyone’s life here in Rio Vista. She was the most unique individual and could make anyone laugh. She embraced every flaw about anyone she met and was total of life and love. The fact that she and her father had to die like this is truly a tragedy. God Bless you Kianna and Theodore Machado.
One Dead, One Gravely Injured on Highway four Crash, East County Today
Update: Two Dead in Saturday Highway four Crash
An afternoon crash on Highway four and Marsh Creek Road in Discovery Bay resulted in two deaths.
The incident occurred at 1:35 pm after a tow truck and sedan collided in what is being described as a T-bone type collision where fire crews had to use hydraulic instruments to extract the victims. The sedan was ruined. The passenger in that vehicle was pounced dead on scene while the drive was flown to John Muir Trauma Center in Walnut Creek where they later passed due to major injuries from the crash.
The tow truck driver and passenger were unharmed in the incident.
According to the incident report, the two truck driver advised the sedan turned in front of him as he was traveling approximately fifty mph resulting in a tow truck colliding with the sedan on its passenger side.
Theodore Machado, 44, of French Camp and his 16-year-old daughter, Kianna Machado, of Rio Vista, died following the crash.
We will be updating this story tomorrow morning.
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Is this the 2nd one at that intersection this week?
The victim with life menacing injuries has passed away. My family and I drove through the intersection well after the crash. Absolutely gruesome view. It made my belly turn to see yellow tarps. I can’t stop thinking about those poor people and their families. May they rest in peace.
May God bless these people and their friends and family. Unluckily I eyed this just after it happened and got a picture of the wreck. The picture shows the car crumpled and I believe it was the passenger who was killed because after reading the comments I looked at my picture and realized the yellow tarp on the passenger seat was to cover up the person who passed away. The medevac helicopter landed in the field next to the accident and the firefighters were attempting to extract the person and get them on the helicopter. When I came by three hours later they were still cleaning up and investigating. Is there a way to submit my photo for the story?
Yes it was a father and his teenage daughter both from Rio Vista. We are mourning the loss in our little town.
Roxanne it was 17year old boy and a 19year old boy from alvarado Texas that passed away in this accident. I know the victims.
@Holly, the corners office confirmed it was a father and daughter.
Theodore Machado, 44, of French Camp and his 16-year-old daughter, Kianna Machad, of Rio Vista, died following the 1:35 p.m crash, a coroner’s spokesman said Sunday.
I drove by maybe twenty mins after the accident and witnessed the yellow tarp covering the passenger side and about ten fire fighters standing and looking at the drivers side. The view of the accident made me gasp i knew no one could sustain that horrific accident. May they rest in peace!
There is a reason this is a safety corridor-daylight headlights on section. If i recall correctly a family was wiped out at that same intersection.
Two more people lost. How many more lives will this undivided highway take?
May they rest in peace.
At least you got this right unlike other papers, the Times lists it as Byron. Very sad. More safety is needed out that way. That blue car being crushed like that, I can’t imagine being a police officer or firefighter or emt on scene. very sad
When will this be updated? I know the people that died.
@Holly, we updated this story this morning with extra pictures. Original story had 1-person dead on scene and the other was transported with serious injuries. This morning we updated to reflect both victims did die from the accident. I’ve not included the names because I have not been made aware who they were by law enforcement. I also want to make sure families have been decently notified very first.
Ted and Kianna were my best friends brother and niece. The family is devastated. 🙁
This section of Marsh Creek Raod which the victim was turning onto is not in Discovery Bay it is in Byron.
Neither Marsh Creek Rd or Highway four goes into Byron. They both go to Discovery Bay. Check your google map. It looks like Burk was the only one to get it right.
More importantly, may the two individuals that perished rest in peace.
So very sad all here in rio vista are heartbroken ! Ted and Kianna will be very missed .I did not know them well but our kids go to school together and I just met Ted last year very nice man I just learned he was into some acting had petite jobs on A&E and more. Kianna was very pretty, kind , creative and so funny loved watching those kids in the school and community plays, all the kids knew her and loved her care free spirit . This is a devastating tragedy for our petite town.:(
Who are these seventeen and nineteen year olds? When and where did they have their accident.
Read the story. They weren’t seventeen and nineteen year olds…
Then Who is this Holly person who say’s she knows who was in the accident?
I misread this story and thought it was a different accident that two of my friends were in. Saturday morning. i didn’t have total details at the time so I assumed this was the wreck So no I am not an idiot. Truth you calling me an idiot makes you a jackass Im human and made a mistake.
There was an accident in gun barrel tx on Saturday morning that involved two people close to me that lost their lives. Tyler Mcmillan and Justin Luper
Holly, Very first of all I was not the one who called you an idiot. Secondly you should not ASSUME things before you get your facts.
Our community is mourning today and holding a candlelight vigil this evening. Please keep our children and the family in your prayers.
i was at a crimson light at the intersection in the work van as soon as it happened. Myself and several others got out of our car’s and attempted to help Ted. Community members came together and attempted everything they could. The harm and trauma is still haunting. The hardest part of it all was finding Kianna in the debris. None of us were able to see her right away. i’ll never leave behind the tow truck driver’s face when he was told she was in the vehicle. Does anyone know WHERE AND WHEN a service will be held for them?
Hello Sam T, I am Teds Aunt Jaci. The services are to be held at the Catholic Church in Rio Vista eleven am on May 13th. Feel free to call me 916-996-0452
Thank you for attempting to help Ted and Kianna at this horrific scene. We are still and will forever be heartbroken at the loss of these two wonderful and loved people in our town of Rio Vista.
I miss you ki , cherish your moments up der i love you, ill miss you forever, rip your dad&beautiful angel
I sent ‘Burk’ an email with this content and it was overlooked.
This accident could have been prevented and these lives could have been spared. That is all I will say. It is a tragedy. Just as significant is reporting the facts correctly so people can relate to where it happened. The following is what was sent to ‘Burk’. Yet no correction has been made.
Your story was amazing/phots were exceptional but you have your facts incorrect. This horrific accident happened in BYRON NOT DISCOVERY BAY. WE HAVE LIVED HERE FOR eight YEARS AND OTHERS ON THIS END OF MARSH CREEK ROAD FOR 30+ IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN BYRON, There is an issue with this road that Mr. Machado was turning onto. If these issues had been addressed as the residents of this end of Marsh Creek Road have been asking for for five years these people would not have lost their lives.
Discovery Bay is east of Bixler Road.
It is significant that you report this accident as happening in the correct town. I cannot go in to details. If your a reporter please check your facts.
You can’t go into details? Why not?
Very first of all you do not know what you are talking about and I do not need a google map to tell me where I live. The residents on this end of Marsh Creek Raod that Mr. Machado was turning onto have lived here for eight to thirty years. We have always been located in BYRON and that is where the Assessors office has us.
In reporting a story as horrific as this it is significant the facts are reported correctly so the people can relate to WHERE IT HAPPENED. Even Kron four and Ktvu two got it right as did the highway patrol.
If you think that Byron is one little street where the Byron Bar is your incorrect. Byron covers a enormous area and Discovery Bay WAS BYRON UNTIL A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN THE RESIDENTS Desired THEIR OWN TOWN; WHICH DOES NOT GO OUTSIDE OF THEIR COMMUNITY.
You liKe ‘Burk’ need to get your facts corrected.
The loss of these two lives could have been prevented that is all I can say.
If you want to get technical and split hairs. its unincorporated Contra Costa County and just 200-300 yards from Discovery Bay’s border while over a mile away from Byron. I went with the closer city to identify where it occurred.
It doesn’t truly matter where the incident occurred, but that two people died and the road needs more safety improvements ASAP.
It is Byron not Discovery Bay as reported.
Dah, we all know it is unincorparated CCC. wE LIVE HERE
It is NOT A MILE AWAY FROM BRYON THAT ACCIDENT HAPPENED LESS THAN 1/Two MILE FROM OUR HOUSE ON MCR. AND WE ARE IN BYRON AND SO IS HIGHWAY Four/BRYON HIGHWAY AND THAT INTERSECTION. CALL THE CHP THEY WILL TELL YOU THEY PATROL OUT HERE ALL THE TIME.
There is nothing technical about it. It is Significant that this accident was reported to have happend in Byron it has to do with getting safety addressed, something the resident here have been screaming about for five years. Lives were lost and we feel it was could have been prevented. IF YOU Proceed TO SAY DB IT IS PUTTING THE SAFETY ISSUE IN THE WRONG TOWN.
You don’t seem to get it so I am done!
@ dpr, double penetration, dsrp, dsr, and lemonellop,
I’m not necessarily sure why it is so significant to you, but I have to once again side with Burk on this one. I am familiar with the area and history, having lived here much longer than you. I was able to bring up the following map with a few clicks of the mouse.
The boundary of what is called Byron is limited to the puny downtown area which is depicted on all county maps.
While the smaller streets are not labeled, if you know the area then you can see that Disco Bay does go west of Bixler Rd. Both Marsh Creek Road and Highway four intersect with Discovery Bay, and neither even come close to Byron which is located off of J4 (see map link).
As Burk reported the area in question is not indeed in either Disco Bay or Byron, but is much closer to Disco Bay. He got it right.
Byron, is a census designated place which is actually the County. More than likely the other media is relying on old, outdated information. I very doubt if the traffic in the area is related any more to Byron than that of Disco Bay.
If it is traffic safety you are worried about I think attempting to make this about your individual location is strange. The entire spread of Highway four inbetween Brentwood and Disco (including the intersection of Marsh Creek) is in a highway Safety Corridor and daylight “headlights on” section of road. Since neither of us know what indeed caused the accident and attempting to label the scene Byron or Disco Bay truly has no bearing. what other safety measure or issue do you have in mind?
I have my facts straight and unlike you I didn’t need to “SHOUT” at the computer to attempt to get my point across. How old are you, Five? By the way Byron is not spelled Bryon which you did more than once. “Me thinks” if you actually lived there you would know how to spell it.
The long and brief of it was that Burk is right, and you are wrong. Get over it.
Not the switch the subject but do you recall the accident where a truck fountain of teenagers were ejected and killed? I think it was in the early 80’s. Wasn’t that inbetween Marsh Creek Rd and Byron Highway? If I recall correctly, that was one of the driving compels behind the Safety Corridor and the ban on railing in the back of trucks.
YES,Our Son was the very first to react he was a paramedic he has never forgotten it. Even tho this intersection was for safety it created other horriffic unsafe conditions that affect us and our neighbors.
Two of my high school friends died in the accident you mention… it was horrible.
YOU HAD BETTER (AND YES I AM SHOUTING BECAUSE YOU CAN’T HEAR!) CALL THE ASSESSORS OFFICE AND THE CHP AND TELL THEM THEY HAVE ALL OF US IN THE WRONG CITY. YOU ARE A Masturbate AND DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT; IT ISN’T THE MAP THAT RUNS THIS AREA IS IT THE CC ASSESSOR. THE MAPS ARE NOT ACCURATE THAT IS WHY NO ONE CAN FIND US THAT WAY. AND, DON’T YOU KNOW YOUR SUPPOSED TO CAPITALIZE THE Very first LETTER OF THE Very first WORD OF A Fresh SENTENCE. OHHHHH DID WE MAKE A TYPO
Had better what? Barrage you with more facts? (For the record, I knew you weren’t done).
If you look closely at the county map you can see it is not done by the assessor’s office, because it is not his purview. The Assessor and his clerks have no jurisdiction or authority over boundaries. Call his office if you don’t believe me. His name is Gus Kramer, look it up!
I am sure the CHP as well would be blessed to modify their outdated location designations; I suggest you contact them as well or if you like I can. Just say the word.
Even when you are right you are wrong. My typo was a period instead of a comma. No need to capitalize after a comma. But just the same, my mistake and thank you for catching it! Now you need to get a grip on the rest of this. You don’t get to choose where Byron is. That has already been determined. Check out the shiny fresh signs that are 1/Two way down J4 (far away from your house) welcoming you to Byron. Check out the official and current county map which put you miles outside of Byron, because last time I checked the news channels and the CHP were not in charge of land designation.
p.s. SE, this is a blog site, for exchanging of information and opinion. Not a place people come to mourn. I am sure the people that were close to the families could care less. Please stop attempting to play the martyr.
Byron is East County’s version of the movie cars ”Radiator Springs”. The location of the crash truly doesn’t matter and its irrelevant. I think it’s rather pathetic you want this accident in Byron for nothing more than making an argument for safety improvements. The road is long and should be address as a entire, not so one little radiator springs type of town can benefit. Two people lost their lives, lets respect that and stop attempting to pick a fight on something as foolish as the town. Looknig at the map, I’ll side with Burk.
Please, this article is not about the name of a city. It’s about a father and daughter who lost their lives. Judging by the other comments, family and friends are coming to this site to pay their respects and express their love for the two souls that were lost, not to read bickering about a name. For the love of all that is good in the world, please respect these people’s memory and take your arguments someplace else. You all have valid points but this is not the place to discuss them. If there is something to be learned from this tragedy, it is that we should love those we hold dear and realize we are all in this world together and we all have things to learn from and train to one another.
SE, this is a blog site, for exchanging of information and opinion. Not a place people come to mourn. I am sure the people that were close to the families could care less. Please stop attempting to play the martyr.
Any place the family or friends might go to find information on their loved ones or to pay their respects is considered a place to mourn. Would you tell a grieving person to leave a restaurant or get off the side of the road because “it’s not a place to mourn”? More than anything I feel sorry for you, that you could be so sultry about the name of where you live yet so callous as to people’s feelings. I’ll beg for you along with these two souls and their friends and family and I honestly mean that with no bad intent or malice whatsoever.
I agree this ECV person thinkS he/she can run this site and his/her comments and opinions are gospel. He has no right to condemn you for your loving thoughts for those who lost their lives as well as those who loved them.
This is an open forum and if you feel voicing your distress and condolances help you I think you have every right and I agree it is a horrific outcome of an accident that could have been prevented. Now uncountable lives are being sadly touched by this event and we all as human beings need this interaction.
I don’t want you to think we do not suffer for those affected and those who lost their lives; that the name of the city is more significant; we actually have been involved with our neighbors for five long years attempting to get just this type of event prevented. Unluckily those who run things have their own agenda. But we are not providing up.
We were at that intersection on Saturday, it is close to our home. It made us outraged that two youthfull lives; yes, the Dad was just a youthfull age too, were lost and it could have been prevented. My heart was cracking as we viewed the aftermath.
I have grandchildren that travel that highway and our road it scares me to death every time they come here.
You keep telling what is on your mind; it is still our right who knows how long we will have THAT.
Thank you for your post p and I couldn’t agree with you more p. You sound like a very loving and caring grandparent and this accident truly struck a cord for me and made me very emotional (even tho’ I don’t know the victims) because I drove by it a few minutes after it happened. I’m a father and was driving with my two year old daughter to go see her grandparents in Disco Bay when we spotted the accident and the firefighters attempting to extract the driver. When I read later on that it was a father and daughter who passed away in the accident my heart sank. I apologize if I seemed over emotional in my previous post but the loss of these two souls has just indeed struck close to home for me. I thank you for your respect, but more importantly for your passion to make these roads safer, which like yourself, I travel with my loved ones everyday. We can all agree that tragedies like these should be prevented at all cost and if that means clearly defining where the accident occurred, so be it. I just didn’t want the concentrate of the comments and this discussion to turn from these two people and their grieving friends and family. I’m sure when things like this happen, we all hold our children, grandchildren, friends, or family a little closer and realize that every moment we get to spend on this Earth with our loved ones is precious and should be appreciated to the fullest.
P= Hypocrisy. P has the stones to talk about preaching? Are you friggen kidding me? I think I just threw up a little.
You are not the blog police! My spouse say’s your a hellion!
We will plead for you
All of you… lets stop with the attacks of one another and figure out ways that none of these incidents ever happen again. I don’t want to police this board but I will begin deleting posts if I have to.
Actually it looks to me like SE and P are attempting to police this board and make up some kind of rule(s). I happen to agree with ECV on this one and think he/she has just as much right to comment on “whatever”, just as SE and P have a right to do the same. Where I see the difference is that P and SE are attempting to disqualify an issue by playing the pity card. That itself is pitiful.
I think we all want to see the roadways in east county be as safe as possible, no matter what city, town or area they are in. In the meantime let people express their opinions and facts as they see fit. That after all is the purpose of a blog.
A few things are for sure;
The world will proceed to spin, and the Byron/ Disco Bay feud will proceed. For some reason the few people in Byron are stuck in the 1900’s. That very likely won’t switch.
Thank You Ted’s Aunt
Given the way Byron folks are acting on this page and the fine amount of disrespect they are displaying I can see why their town has failed to progress and instead regress. What a shame.
Barbara, this is what I found under a search. It looks like the safety corridor was commenced in early 2000’s. Not sure about the year railing in the back of a pickup truck became illegal in CA.
What everyone here is this road Mr. Machado was turing onto is a dangerous brief cut created by the improved intersection and these people should never have lost their lives had the POWERS THAT BE that run this county had headed our warnings over the last five years.
THAT IS WHY IT IS Significant TO REPORT THE CORRECT TOWN AND LOCATION SO IT BECOMES PUBLIC RECORD OF LIVES LOST THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN.
THIS TRAGEDY IS ON THE Mitts OF THOSE WHO CHOSE TO USE THEIR POWER TO Disregard THIS EXACT PROBLEM
ps that accident killing six people happened in the early 90’s. Our son was a medic and had to check each bod for life and found none. Do you think he has forgotten that? NO! Now he has two youthfull adult children that must travel this road and the highway to come and see their grandparents. That is why this is so significant that this town add this fatality to their records; maybe we can prevent future losses.
Geez This is unbelievable
Yes, HWY four is a bad road. I myself drive it all the time. We need to keep in mind that everyone has a right to there own opion(s). Accually, every where is a bad place even your own home. We can not predict what is going to happen, it just happens!
I, also eyed the scene after the accident happened as I was on my way home from work. All I could think about was the people that where involved. How they and their families are affected. It brought some tears to my eyes. I hope that Mr. Machado and his daughter RIP! As to the family my preyer’s are with you! Love, Respect and Charish what you have…………
You pounded it. I couldn’t have said it better myself!
Prayers go out to the family and let’s hope we all drive a little more cautiously as a result of these tragic accidents.
My big bro hammers me up all the time. I attempted to tell him the accident was in the Ag Core of the county. I even attempted to tell him that Gus Kramer is retired, He just keeps listening to the voices in his head. Glad I got the better genes. Truly, that intersection has always been bad. The crossing at Walnut is just as bad too.
Thanks again for the quick peek into your make-believe world. There must be a lot of noise that pointy little head of yours!
Gus Kramer retired? Truly. Someone might want to tell him because he is still demonstrating up for work every day and collecting a paycheck! Maybe you should also alert his clerks that their boss has retired with out them even knowing. Bro, that is going to be news!!
Come on little brother, my facts will always trump your delusions. After all, we both know you are from the shallow end of the gene pool.
Now time to take your meds. There is a seat reserved just for you on the brief bus as long as you stop eating the windows. Doesn’t that make you special?
Ughhh I drove by right as it happened and spotted that poor little dame stringing up outside of the car. It’s the very first accident I’ve seen. Drive cautiously everyone.
AMEN HIS ELEVATOR DOESN’T GO ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP
WE have no intention of exposing details to someone who turns down to report the facts. We have five years invested in attempting to making our road safe and we are not providing up; especially now that two people lost their lives, it is related!
Like we said; these two people did not have to die on Saturday. And your refusal to place the accident in the decent town; I don’t care if you call it unincorprated or what ever we know that WEaall live out here, but it is NOT Discovery Bay. We are on farm land and we do not have a hallway or a boat behind our homes. When you say Discovery Bay you are leading the readers to believe it happened somewhere other than where it did. Mis-reporting like this makes it difficult for the residents attempting to fight the County Powers that be; we need all the accurate information we can collect and THIS IS Thick. Two people died and they didn’t have to that is all you need to know. We are not providing up; because the CHP works with us and we are certain they will give us the decent information to add to the massive file we have worked tirelessly to accumulate. We beg we are successful; if it is due to this horrible incident then maybe we can save others in their name.
dpr, I am Teds Aunt and I have been reading this blog all day. I am a hard believer in things happening for a reason. Tho’ my distress is beyond anything I can explain, I was thinking that hopefully this horrible tragedy will lead to saving other lives. I didn’t know this highway had such a bad reputation. I beg that the powers that be take this matter into serious consideration. If there is anything I can do to help, Please let me know.
I’ve been following this article since the beginning. DPR, I realize you are sultry about your cause. It emerges this cause has something to do with a road in Byron somewhere. Evidently it is dangerous, but since you keep telling “someone died, that is all you need to know,” no one is able to understand your concerns. Are you accumulating some kind of file on all the accidents that are taking place on this particular concerning spread of road? If so, why can’t you divulge the problems you perceive this area to have? I would sure like to know if a particular street I am likely to drive on has a specific danger known to the local residents (too narrow, undivided, potholes, cattle, etc). Unless they want to keep that issue a secret so there are a lot more accidents to prove their point, which is exactly how you are coming across. You do realize public perception will get a cause greater notice? Right now all I see is someone telling, “There’s a major problem on this road, but I’m not going to tell you what it is. I want to get as many incidents recorded in my file as possible, so I’m not going to tell anyone what the problem is until there are enough to prove my point.” Two people just died. You have a superb forum right here to make many in the area aware of your concerns regarding this road and get behind your cause. And you are throating it royally.
Yours is nothing more than an emotional rant with motives unrelated to the loss of the two lives or the “area” of which it took place. It emerges you are a confused individual who is attempting to use an unfortunate accident for individual benefit. You simply want to chastise Burk and others for refusing to buy into your “opinions” and confusion. The issue is elementary; Your opinions are not facts.
Point one- Posting as “PDR, DRP, P, DSR, p, KMA/DSR, dsrp, dsr, pdr, double penetration and d”, only makes you look desperate.
Point two- The name of the area in relation to the accident data of Highway Four, including Marsh Creek Rd has no bearing on your safety position. Highway four has already been deemed a hazardous roadway and designated as a safety corridor.
Point three- How can you not know where Discovery Bay and Byron are located? You are located in neither, but if you live on Marsh Creek Rd, you are closer to Discovery Bay. That is a elementary fact and one which you cannot switch. By writing; “We do not have a hallway or a boat behind our homes” It is evident you are unaware that a large part of Discovery Bay is not on the water, and furthermore, backs up to Marsh Creek Rd. Byron does not, in reality, it’s not even close.
And a final point- You wrote; “Mis-reporting like this makes it difficult for the residents attempting to fight the County Powers that be; we need all the accurate information we can collect and THIS IS Meaty.” I am wondering, if you indeed think this is hefty and accurate information is significant, why do you think you would be able to coax the “County Powers” that be, that you know better? It’s almost like you are insinuating that they don’t know where Byron is? Where Discovery Bay is? Where this intersection is located? Don’t you see how that would be problematic right out of the gate? If you come in with bad information, where does that leave you? I believe that most of us on this message board view this simply as another tragedy on Highway 4-a highway with a dangerous legacy. Steps have been taken by many others to make it safer and from what I have read online they have been largely successful. I remain confused why the location is so significant to you? Hidden agenda?
You also stated; “we actually have been involved with our neighbors for five long years attempting to get just this type of event prevented. Unluckily those who run things have their own agenda.”
So I ask two very ordinary questions;
What have you done to get “just this type of event prevented”? What is your agenda?
It makes me wonder, maybe it is you that can’t hear (or rather aren’t listening). You wrote; “YOU HAD BETTER (AND YES I AM SHOUTING BECAUSE YOU CAN’T HEAR!) CALL THE ASSESSORS OFFICE AND THE CHP AND TELL THEM THEY HAVE ALL OF US IN THE WRONG CITY. YOU ARE A Jack AND DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT;”
Are you aware that neither is a city? That would be a fact. So based on what you wrote, it would show up that you don’t know what you are talking about. Recognize a pattern here?
These people lost their lives on Highway Four, not Marsh Creek Road. No one is ever going to take you gravely when you attempt to arch reality as you do. We don’t know the cause of this accident, so why don’t you commence by coming clean on your motives? That would be the right thing to do instead of misleading Jaci. Don’t you think her family has suffered enough?
I am sooo sorry for you loss. I hate to think this horrible tragedy will be the defining event that will help us in our endeavor to make our road safe. Albeit the Highway has been an issue it is the Road your Nephew was turning onto I am referring to. Do you know where your Nephew and his Daughter were heading?
Please give our condolences to your family and friends. Our prayers are going your way.
Thanks. Ted was heading to French Camp. That is where his gf lives. Ki was to attend her prom that night with my daughter Kim in Rio Vista. Unnecessary to say, the prom was canceled midway. I had to tell her sister and my daughter about the accident. If this accident is what it takes to fix that road, then so be it. I am grieving but if there is anything I can do to help this cause please let me know. Again your thoughts are so kind. God Bless you too Jaci
If only Ted had taken highway four instead of turining on our Road as a brief cut.
It is just devastating to hear about Kim and the Prom. My Grandson and his Gf went to their JR Prom two weeks ago. Our Granddaughter just turned 21; we and Mom and Dad cringe when they are out driving it just isn’t safe with the texting, cell phones and speed we all are at risk. I am sooo sorry; It just isn’t fair that these two souls left this world way too soon.
Our prayers are with you all.
After reading your most latest post I have a few questions. How do you know that the person (Ted?) was turning into your road as a brief cut? Has any official CHP accident report been issued and if so why would you have it? I drive through that area often and it emerges the accident in question occurred on the Highway-am I looking at the wrong crash site? (While driving up to the intersection I noted a large CalTrans sign which reads “Byron two mi”).
I also notice that you asked for an apology from Burk and another poster, but failed to reaction the questions directed to you.
This entire thing seems suspect.
This is my last post on this issue. I am indeed weary of the ignorant comments and condescening attitudes you all wield.
Mr. Machado was in the South strapped ‘turn lane’ and was turing East onto Marsh Creek Raod from Highway four when he was struck in the intersection by a AAA tow truck. We do not know who was at fault. If you have been to the site then you can see the CHP markings on the pavement. It is pretty clear what happened.
That isn’t significant what is is the loss of these two peoples lives in our community.
The ‘Byron two mi’ is correct. The little town of Byron is two miles up the road by the railroad tracks. But BYRON is a massive area.
I have confirmation from the assessors office that others including this Burk person and ECV turns down to acknowledge stating the assessors don’t know what they are talking about. Well we have been paying our taxes under a Byron address for ten years and our neighbors for even longer. We don’t even have a polling place we have to vote by mail BECAUSE WE AND ALL FOUR CORNERS OF THIS INTERSECTION are in Byron.
I might add that CCC improved this intersection and then gave it over to Cal Trans.
I very doubt that the above was your last post on this issue, if it was then I am worthy of you labeling me ignorant. It is my believe that petite minded people often find condescending attitudes in those not sharing their viewpoints.
I am not sure what happened at the intersection to cause the accident, but evidently you missed the point. I thought it was evident but evidently not so I will ask it again (a little clearer this time).
You wrote: “If only Ted had taken highway four instead of turning on our Road as a brief cut.”
I asked: “How do you know that the person (Ted?) was turning into your road as a brief cut?”
For clarity I am asking, how you could possibly know that someone from out of town (French Camp) was using Marsh Creek Road as a “Brief Cut”. Maybe a better question is, a brief cut to where? (I found it strange that you were interjecting the entire “brief cut” idea).
I drive that road now and then and I would never think of using that section of Marsh Creek Rd as a shortcut off of the highway. I’m not persuaded it is a brief cut to anywhere.
That is the basis of my question to you. Hopefully that clears it up and you can reaction it if you choose.
As for the exact location of your home address you might want to take that up with the County Board of Supervisors. I believe they have jurisdiction, since you don’t seem to live in a city. I personally would not suspend my hat on an opinion from a blog or response to a question via an internet web site.
I hope this clears things up for you. Sorry if it was condescending.
What vagueness of what email? The assessors office and I wrote back and forward and the facts were verified by parcel numbers and maps of this intersection and M C Rd. That is where they concluded that ALL four CORNERS OF THAT INTERSECTION IS BYRON! That is what it was on Saturday and that is what it is now!
What does updating have to do with the present? That is when the accident happened. If your a news reporter then you should care about accurate reporting I already told you that.
It seems you are stuck in the same groove as ECV since you choose to side with his rants to me and others as not bullying. Telling someone not to post mournful emails? Truly.
Hey All, I came upon this blog on accident just looking for information on how my Ted and Ki died. Call it weird but I needed to know something. Very first of all Id like to thank everyone for their heart felt messages. I am so touched by strangers that don’t even know us telling things like RI
P, God Bless, Prayers your way. When you go through something like this you don’t realize how many people are affected. I plead for the tow truck driver and the passenger and every one that eyed this horrible accident. My only solice is that I know Ki went instantly and I want to thank everyone that attempted to save Ted. God Bless You All
To put the issue of in what town this accident occur please see the email below from the inquiry I sent to the assessors office. I think it is pretty clear they know what they are talking about they sent me a map as well.
YOU BOTH OWE ME AND THE OTHER BLOGGERS AN APPOLOGY!
From: Pat [mailto: ccc assessors office
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, two thousand thirteen 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Question
In what city is the Intersection on Highway four and the Eastern most end of Marsh Creen Road.
Thank you for a reponse by email.
From: Greg Codori
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, two thousand thirteen Ten:Ten AM
Subject: RE: Question
All four sides of this intersection is Byron.
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, two thousand thirteen 11:55 AM
Subject: RE: Question
Your question was forwarded to a staff member for response to you.
You should receive a response today.
Assessor’s Customer Services Coordinator
Contra Costa County Assessor’s Office
two thousand five hundred thirty Arnold Drive, Suite 400, Martinez, CA 94553-4395
Phone: (925) 313-7507 Fax: (925) 313-7660
Please ease off a bit, we are talking about unincorporated Contra Costa County where the records have not been updated for decades. It has been brought to my attention, very possibly, misinformation provided to you based off the vagueness of your email.
Don’t be astonished if you see a correction shortly.
On a positive note, at the very least, the county can begin updating their records which is a benefit to your cause and the rest of the county.
THIS WAS THE ORG. MSSG. SENT MARSH CREEK ROAD WAS NOT MISSPELLED.
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, two thousand thirteen Trio:49 PM
Can you please email me the reaction to this question.
In what City is the Intersection of Highway Four/Byron Highway and the Eastern most section of Marsh Creek Road (This section of Marsh Creek Rd. is Inbetween Highway four (intersection) and Bixler)
It is indeed significant.
Thank you for your time
Not sure what the final ruling is on this but you may want to check back with the assessor.
Neither Discovery Bay or Byron was or is a City. The closest “City” to that location is Brentwood, and I believe if you reside there, your zip code reflects this.
Hopefully you got an reaction to your question, as for me I’m still waiting.
I think the point has beeen lost that we need to understand what happened and how can it be avoided in the future. But the road is not dangerous it is the drivers on the road that make it dangerous to travel by not obeying traffic laws. Because of this two people lost their lives long before their time. But it is still significant to find out what went wrong so that it doesn’t happen again. Whether that means more patrols on the road to prevent reckless driving or this horrible accident making all of us rethink how we act behind the wheel and to be more cautious when we drive. We never know when something we do can effect somebody else on the road.
You are exactly the kind of person we DO NOT WANT; you are a condescending hooligan and it is none of your business what our agenda is. It is demonstrable you did not get my latest post; a copy of an email from the county assessors office stating all four corners of that intersection are BYRON!
NOW STOP COMMENTING ON EMAILS I POST TO OTHER PEOPLE IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. I WOULD ADVISE YOU TO STOP NAME CALLING AS WELL. I HAVE COPIES OF ALL OF THESE POSTS. AND YOU ARE BOARDERING ON HARRASSMENT.
Our concerns are valid and our business and will be made public at the adequate time. Now stop including me in your rants.
Burk Ruling, no bullying has occurred.
Exactly what are you telling? You seem to shout in circles? It is everyone’s business when you post on a public forum regarding your views especially when you are incorrect with your assumptions and opinions.
Additionally I have been made aware that the reply you received from the assessor’s office was not correct in the context you were hoping for. I believe a correction or clarification will be issued, so I’ll save my apology. For starters you should very likely take your concerns up with the county district supervisors since they are the ones responsible for setting community boundaries. While you are doing that, you might want to talk to Caltrans about that fat sign at the intersection that puts Byron at least two miles away (thanks B-Wood for posting that!). I am sure they have internet, phones and staff and would be very blessed to educate you.
I indeed didn’t think this would ever have to be said, but for you I’ll make an exception. Stop posting on the internet, and a public forum if you don’t want comments directed back at incorrect information that you are suggesting.
You are in no position to suggesting harassment-especially when you have played so liberate with the facts. You are also the same individual that insists on internet screaming by typing in all caps which is considered shouting when it comes to online etiquette. (Sometimes called “Netiquette”.) My correcting you with facts does not “border” on harassment and if you don’t like being corrected you have the right to disregard it. Plain and ordinary, it is your choice to read, write and react. Get over it.
Of course your own concerns are valid to you. That was never a question.
I asked you what your agenda was? Not a particularly complicated question. I am sure I am not the only that has noticed you avoided the reaction. You are welcome to clear the air and response it at any time. Until then, you are exchanging nothing but hot air and wasting key strokes.
ps THE ABOVE REPLY WAS TO ECV
vagueness of what email? The assessors office and I wrote back and forward and the facts were verified by parcel numbers and maps of this intersection and M C Rd. That is where they concluded that ALL four CORNERS OF THAT INTERSECTION IS BYRON! That is what it was on Saturday and that is what it is now!
What does updating have to do with the present? That is when the accident happened. If your a news reporter then you should care about accurate reporting I already told you that.
It seems you are stuck in the same groove as ECV since you choose to side with his rants to me and others as not bullying. Telling someone not to post mournful emails? Truly.
Ki was one of my best friends and I read this article and comments for helpful information on all that happened. If anyone has any details as to how the crash happened or how ki died, I’d like to hear.
What is wrong with you people? Let’s be literal. IT IS A TOWN THEN.
We have no choice about our zip code the USPO put us in the Brentwood PO because the BYRON PO on Bixler ended up in the Discovery Bay annex. WE LIVE IN BYRON THE ASSESSORS OFFCIE WROTE ME AND CONFIRMED IT YESTERDAY And yet you people proceed to put you two cents in and you don’t know what your talking about. Even Mike Burk, who should know, claims the records are out-dated intead if admitting he was wrong in reporting where this accident occured.
From: Greg Codori ccc Assessors Office
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, two thousand thirteen Ten:Ten AM
Subject: RE: Question
All four sides of this intersection is Byron.
CITY, TOWN WHO THE H CARES I AM SICK OF THIS
ON Saturday this intersection was in Vyron, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Today and all the days into the future until someone tells us differt. We pay our taxes based on a Byron Address.
Does that clear it up or are you going to keep going on and on about it?
Byron, Typo, don’t want any comments about that. I am not writing a Thesis so don’t write me about mispelled words
I am just writing to see how you and your family and friends are doing. I know the heartbreak and the feeling of defenselessness that goes after such a tragedy.
It concerns me to see the youthful friends of Ki posting; they are so vunerable I hope they have alot of support. Our youngest Grandson is seventeen so we get it.
We have experienced eight losses (all of my family within five months two brothers my sister and her spouse) four very close friends , one took her life because she couldn’t bear the loss of our mutural friend just in the last three years and I understand the slot that is in your life right now. Just reminisce God never gives us more than we can treat. I attempt to lean on my faith and trust in God’s plan. It isn’t effortless.
If it is ok with you I would like to call you in a few weeks when things ease up. You left you number on a previous mssg. but I will not call without your o.k.
With Love and our Deep Sympathy
Hi Pat, We are all devastated. Its like a wave, one minute your ok, then BAM it hits you again. If it weren’t for my faith I don’t think I could treat this. Sure you can call me. The heart felt thoughts and prayers on this blog have been so nice and very touching.
One day at a time
I know the feeling it is surreal. I think that is how we get through it.
When I was twenty one I was seven months along with our Son (who ended up being a paramedic and saved innumerable lives and witnessed things I could never imagine)during a flash rain storm in August my parents went over a cliff on their way to Carson City. On our way up there with our three year old Daughter I found out my Mother had died while I was standing in a phone booth in Sacramento. Of all the people I have lost over the years that stay’s with me like it was yesterday. My Son never knew his grandmother and she was a wonderful Nana. Life is just not fair and it is hard. I indeed think we live our Hell on earth. There has to be something better.
Hold on to your memories and keep them alive it helps.
Suspend on to your loved ones and friends reaching out is so significant.
I will be thinking of you Monday.
Write me if you need to talk.
You are so sweet and Thank You for the support. Im not looking forward to Monday, but we will get through it. Oh the memories are awesome. And YES there is something better 🙂
When things peaceful down write me ok?
I have been watching this blog since Sunday and have been holding my comments until I could obtain facts about this tragedy.
Albeit blogs are a sounding board of public opinion I am stunned to see the way ECV, B-Wood and Mike Burks’ continous rude responses to one blogger (Pat) who has only attempted to correct the incorrect information given by the reporter in his story. It seems visible it is an significant factor to an significant cause.
A reporter who denies to report the facts of this accident because of pride or being incapable to admit a wrong should re-think his/her profession. There seems to be a moral issue here yet all three bloggers are intent on disrespectful comments instead of observing the importance this person places on this terrible tragedy. Mr. Burk even stated he picked the closest ‘City’; Discovery Bay is not a City. We have way too much misinformation fed to us in the media as it is.
Accounts of this accident were accurately reported on Major news stations in the Bay Area like Channel two News and KRON four News. Kron four news came to the scene and actually interviewed the CHP on the day of the accident. The CHP officer noted the accident occured at the Intersection of Highway four and Marsh Creek Road in Byron. The news reporter signed off telling’ this is *reporter* KRON four News reporting live from Byron.
The good thing is these people who are obviously fighting for some sort of safety issue can rely on that reporting which is more reliable. I think Pat should take convenience in that because she got no where in this forum.
It seems WHERE it happened IS as significant as WHY it happened. Especially if there seems to be an ongoing safety issue some local residents seem to be attempting to get addressed. That seems to have been dismissed in a rude way by all three of the bloggers which, to me, makes it seem like lost lives are not worth preventing and they are more intent on being right instead of validating the efforts of this group. Maybe if one of these three bloggers had lost a relative or friend in this accident they might see things differently.
If you were part of a group who has worked for five years (as stated by Pat) towards improved safety with no one willing to hear or act on their prayers and then have two people die as a result, would you not be outraged?
In reading the blogs I get the indication this accident might have been prevented and I don’t think these three bloggers are being fair in insisting on facts from Pat that may compromise five years of working toward what ever purpose they may have.
And, those who have been making rude and ignorant comments have been insisting on those details. If I had been spoken to in the way Pat was I would never disclose anything to these individuals. They certainly do not have a positive agenda and I am sure these residents do not want negativity infused into their endeavors.
I just spoke with the CHP in Martinez to get the facts of this accident and where it happened according to their report. The blogger who has been attempting to make the point of this accident being reported in the correct area is right and they way this blogger has been mistreated is something this site should not have let happen. Yet I see that Mike Burk, who obviously manages this site and who wrote the story incorrectly, is siding with these two other bloggers inflamatory comments, when he should remain unbiased and correct his story to reflect the truth.
I just spoke to the Assessors office and, in spite of Mr. Burk’s comments, there is no instant plan to update what Mr. Burk calls outdated records and boundries. The spokes person at the Assessors office confirmed all four corners of the Intersection on Higheway four and Marsh Creek Road are located in Byron (not Discovery Bay). And, there is no plan to switch that.
I do not understand why Mr. Burk insists on calling it just an unincorporated area to side step the fact he did not report the facts and take responsibility. Should he have reported this accident happened in an unincorporated area of Contra Costa County then? That would pinpoint it right?
I choose not post the detailed accounts of the accident and who ultimately violated traffic safty laws. Anyone who wishes this information can contact the CHP in Martinez.
The fact remains, no matter who made this poor judgement resulting in this accident, two lives were lost. Unluckily we are all human and make mistakes. Sadly this one can’t be taken back and I can understand the outrage Pat feels about these lost lives and the influence on everyone who knew them. It seems to me everyone should rally to help any one or any group who is working to prevent this type of tragedy not condemn them with rude comments.
A Man on the side of ‘Safety’ and Fairness
You sure spent a lot of time spinning that yarn. I checked up on it and you. You wasted your time.
It is all a valant effort at hyperbole and not even worth a response. Nice attempt.
Hope that wasn’t to harsh for you.
You think your pretty clever don’t you? You say you spoke to CHP, yet you list no contact names or when you called. You say you can’t post because it would crack traffic safety laws, when in fact, if that were true, CHP would never have told you details of this incident.
Also, you say you spoke with County Assessor’s Office, again I ask who? Did you happen to ask when they last updated the maps? The reaction would shock you. For the record, it’s not the County Assessor’s office who would switch borders, but rather CoCo Supervisors with LAFCO. Assessors simply assign the parcels for tax purposes known as Tax Rate Areas or TRA’s.
In fact, it has been reported to me that Greg’s supervisor was aware of the error that was sent and I will go after up in the near future with an extra article loyal to that subject. Pat should have identified why she was asking and stated she was going to share it for a more thorough explanation. The assessor’s office was not too pleased that Pat misused the information provided. I’ve also talked to a former Discovery Bay and LAFCO official who stated this was this was unincorporated Contra Costa County and confirmed its closer to Discovery Bay. The reality is, as I’ve already stated, this happened in unincorporated Contra Costa and I used Discovery Bay as the closest town to identify the location.
Again, Marsh Creek Road does not go into Byron.
Yes, I admit I used “city” in a comment instead of “town”, the article however stated neither. That is not necessarily misinformation being reported, but rather a discussion in the comment section—folks on here who you are defending couldn’t even spell Byron. I could then shoot back at your for referring to people in the comment section as “bloggers” instead of “commentators”, but I won’t. We all misspeak/mistype at times; it’s not the end of the world.
Ultimately, I’d also like to address the rudeness comment, I was far from rude. The fact is, you’re most likely a friend of Pat, which is fine, but what gives her the credentials to tackle safety and be the expect on Marsh Creek Road or Byron Highway or shout at other posters. Is it just because she lives there and makes observations? She has never identified the work she has done or progress she has evidently made in five years’ time. What is her end objective? Again, never stated or answered. If it’s a good aim, I’d love to even do a story on it and support her in that effort—but it’s never been collective.
Dr. Don, there can be no doubt after that post that you are indeed a card-carrying, t-shirt wearing idiot.
Brow hammering the people at the Assessor’s office would be consistent with your M.O. of carpeting bombing various county offices with unending records requests. I seem to recall you being rebuffed repeatedly on or about Apr 11, thirteen and sixteen when you went hounding the medical people. It would show up since you didn’t get the pat on the head you so despairingly seek there, that you have moved on to annoy others to sate your psychosis.
For both you and Pat, here’s a ordinary question: what on God’s Green Earth does the Assessor have to do with safety improvements on a highway? They don’t compile accident data. It’s not their job. They do, however, proceed to send out property tax bills to Discovery Bay residents with incorrect zip codes on them six years after it was officially switched. What does yours say, Don?
But that’s your source for authoritative information?
If you, as you claim, called a CHP representative and obtained detailed information not yet public about this incident, I would like to have names. What is the CHP doing providing such details to some T-shirt tail tugging yahoo like you? Especially over an incident involving numerous fatalities and potential liabilities? Personally I think you made that up, something which you do fairly frequently because you assume no one will call you on it. It’s no mystery why local officials(and I’m not talking the ones you regularly stalk) can so lightly, and unsolicited, put the phrase “pathological liar” in the same sentence with your name.
On this totally ridiculous argument of the location of the site and its influence on public safety. Shut up already! You people don’t display a slurp of common sense or logic. To actually suggest that labeling this as happening in Byron makes a bit of difference in safety improvement would NEVER pass the smell test. You are entirely bullsheeting the readers and exploiting an unfortunate tragedy. Pat because she’s got some secret file she’s building and some secret agenda that no one can hear about and Don just because he likes being a Putz……regularly.
Highway four is already designated a safety corridor in that area! Are you thinking this Byron BS campaign will make a super secret squirrel safety corridor? Where in the hell are you going with this? Any objective person reading this crap would, and rightly so, think you are all off your nut.
Get a life, people. Find something better to do with your time than this sociopathic garbage campaign you’re running. You’re trampling the memory of two human beings with your little games and individual agendas.
Don, you should stick to sitting on five gal buckets outside Safeway with your sad-sack pity party campaigns. The visual alone is a gem and one for the archives. Your contributions lower the IQ of any discussion of local issues and this one was no different.
Please refrain from name calling.
We had to run an errand yesterday and I thought you would like to know there are flowers and actual framed photos of Ted and Kiana at the scene. Kiana was a lovely youthfull woman and her Dad much too youthful. It certainly brings reality.
Did they know people who live here or have other family here? Rio Vista and French Camp are pretty far from here so we thought they might be visiting someone.
If you feel convenient can you leave your email address here so I can write you privately. If you don’t want to thats ok. I can’t call you I came down with horrible bronchitas yesterday and I have no voice and won’t for a week. I haven’t been sick since my two Brothers passed away in Feb. 06. I am not glad! lol.
I will witness for your reply; then I am thinking of unsubscribing to this site;
I just can’t stop thinking about you and watching those photographs broke my heart.
String up in there, hope to hear back from you.
I am a friend of Ted and Kianna. It’s been eleven days since the accident and I still am having a hard time wrapping my head around what happened at this intersection of Byron Hwy and Marsh Creek road. I can’t imagine anyone, much less Ted, pulling in front of a tow truck traveling at 50mph. He was a very safe driver. How rapid was the truck indeed going? How could they have not seen each other? What are the conditions at this light that everyone from the area are worried about and want to improve? WHAT HAPPENED?
its nice to see all the people who cared and attempted to get ted out of there… ki has been my best friend for years and i miss her dearly. i was supposed to attend prom that night but was too sick so i stayed home. when i received a text from my friend i thought it was a sick joke and i truly wish it was. she was such a beautiful and funny person…. i love you Ki. miss you forever R.I.P.
Just checking in to see how you are doing
The days are long. Still on real.
it’s lonely here without you ki.
Thinking of you often and each time I see the memorial. Do you know why Ted and Kianna were out this way? Did they have family near by ?
Everyone needs to slow down out there and leave some room. I drive that part of road/hwy/street regularly and many people are driving WAAAY over the speed limit. People are making life switching, split 2nd decisions when driving way too swift and its causing deaths. I would be amazed if that tow truck driver was indeed only going 50mph. I have been tailgated by tow trucks on Hwy four (not in this area of Hwy Four) when I’m going 75mph in the swift lane!! Why am I going 75mph? Because thats going with the flow these days, and inevitably someone (often in a truck) will be tailgating me! Slow down people and leave some room…instruct your kids too. R.I.P. Kianna and Ted, didn’t know you, but you were obviously loved.
Kianna Machado was one of the greatest people in anyone’s life here in Rio Vista. She was the most unique individual and could make anyone laugh. She embraced every flaw about anyone she met and was utter of life and love. The fact that she and her father had to die like this is truly a tragedy. God Bless you Kianna and Theodore Machado.